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2fast4usteeley
02-13-2009, 07:00 PM
Here is it when i got it
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr258/2fast4usteeley/2Engine2.jpg
What a greasy PIG!!!
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr258/2fast4usteeley/100_0553.jpg
I know its too much the horror will be over soon!
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr258/2fast4usteeley/100_0554.jpg
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr258/2fast4usteeley/100_0562.jpg
Here is it after i pressure warshed it
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr258/2fast4usteeley/100_0565-2.jpg
Disassembling the head
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr258/2fast4usteeley/100_0654.jpg
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr258/2fast4usteeley/100_0645.jpg
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr258/2fast4usteeley/100_0646.jpg
Some parts i got back from the hot tanking and the block!
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr258/2fast4usteeley/100_0655.jpg
And heres the block after i had it hotanked, havent had it honed yet though waiting for pistons!
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr258/2fast4usteeley/100_0656.jpg
this is it, the whole block will look like when im done polishing it i just started a few days ago soo... it shouldnt be much longer till its all polished

So far on the list for parts:
1.Bisimoto turbo cam level 2 or 2.4 bisimoto cam gear
2.Aem fuel rail
3.Aem fuel pressure regulator
4.venom fuel injectors 450cc
5.brian crower rods
6.Ngk plugs and wires 7mm
7.135 amp bosch alternator
8.Msd distributor set-up
9.top mount turbo manifold
10.Turbonetics TO4E-50 / Stage 2 .48 A/R
11.wiseco pistons 8:8:1
12.Bisimoto rocker arm assembly
13.Bisimoto pro springs
14.port and polished head
15.k&N filter
16.raxles race cv axles
17.Blitz bov or greddy type r bov
18.upgraded piping system 2.25piping/and no cat
19. same apc intimidator muffler i have now
20. Greddy FMIC
21.po6 ecu
22.greddy boost controller
23.heavy duty ACT street clutch/heavy duty pressure plate
24.ARP head studs
25.fidanza 9lb flywheel

Brian
02-13-2009, 08:04 PM
looking good so far

2fast4usteeley
02-13-2009, 08:05 PM
thanks, ive got some big plans for it.

Brian
02-13-2009, 08:05 PM
anything you would like to share?

2fast4usteeley
02-13-2009, 08:09 PM
yea i guess i could have said that well right now i know its going to be boosted with a bisimoto turbo cam aem adjustable cam gear, aem fuel rail and regulator,brian crower rods and either wesico pistons or a custom set,upgraded 135 amp alternator and a msd set up! thats just about what i am going to get for now just not sure what turbo to run i was thinking a t3/t4 setup but i see to many of those

2fast4usteeley
02-13-2009, 08:10 PM
probably alot more then that

Brian
02-13-2009, 08:11 PM
what kind of hp you looking for?

2fast4usteeley
02-13-2009, 08:13 PM
idk prob like 300 or somthin' idk i just wanna be able to run it on pump gas. i know that if i run 8 pounds of boost with that cam bisimoto said that you can get like 60hp from that but i dont think it would be that much

Brian
02-13-2009, 08:17 PM
good luck with 300hp on pump gas with a SOHC.

2fast4usteeley
02-13-2009, 08:56 PM
i know its gonna be hard but ill do my best

Backwoodz Tuner
02-25-2009, 10:36 PM
looks like a nice project, so keepin the piston size stock or boring it over?

fatboy1185
02-25-2009, 11:54 PM
good luck with 300hp on pump gas with a SOHC.

300hp is cake on 91 oct. Doesnt matter how many cams you have. You think fuel and air know how many cams a motor has??? :roll:

To the OP: Hit me up if you need a turbo manifold man, i have one that would suit this build perfectly.

Brian
02-26-2009, 12:45 AM
i'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying it's going to take some time and money to get it done.

fatboy1185
02-26-2009, 12:07 PM
Haha everything in the automotive world takes time and money. It's like crack, but your teeth don't rot.

slice636
02-26-2009, 01:51 PM
good luck with 300hp on pump gas with a SOHC.

Hey I put 330hp and 300tq on my d16z6 stock motor, with 8 hours on a dyno

2fast4usteeley
02-26-2009, 02:10 PM
i might keep stock size, but im not sure wether to sleeve it or not and if i do im going with darton sleeves. i just got the head back from the machine shop today and im going with a bisimoto set up in the head with a turbo cam from bisimoto and ect... and the bottom i might stroke and then i just have to figure what kind of turbo i want not sure yet though. still doing as much research as i can, so i can make dome good numbers for a daily driver and then just crank the boost up a bit for the track. you guys know of any good makers for parts for the motor?

2fast4usteeley
02-26-2009, 02:19 PM
i'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying it's going to take some time and money to get it done.

and im going to take the time to make sure everything is the way i want it and there really isnt a budget for me just however much money i get each paycheck. so ill probably be workin' all summer long:(

fatboy1185
02-26-2009, 02:21 PM
Don't worry about doing all of all that stuff. People make 400whp on stock f22a motors. You already have an advantage if you are building the head. If you want, throw some forged internals in.

2fast4usteeley
02-26-2009, 09:12 PM
yea but if you build the head stronger then the bottom and its going to have more top end power and blow the bottom out and ye so i just got to find some pistons they are hard to come by for this motor(or maybe im just lookin in the wrong places), i like your cb7 its pretty sweet but whats with the rear bumper?

jon
02-26-2009, 10:29 PM
fatboy knows about cb7s....lol

you should be fine leaving the bottom end for the most part with even building the top...we have a fairly bulletproof bottom ends on those f22s....good look tho

2fast4usteeley
02-27-2009, 06:24 PM
thanks ive just been cleanin' the block for show so...

Backwoodz Tuner
02-28-2009, 02:18 AM
a little bling is always good, i like sweet eye candy, and doin it yourself builds a lot more pride in the whole process keep us posted maan.

2fast4usteeley
07-16-2009, 09:00 PM
ok soo i have been working on the motor a bit lately and just picked up the 5 speed tranny the other day, and i started to think ecu's and im new to the whole odbo obd1 and ecu's i dont really know anything about but i was thinking about doing an upgrade to obd1 cus i was reading on other forums that it is good to upgrade to that for a turbo set-up plus it gets in to more depth with obd1 on your car, so what should i be upgrading the dizzy and the ecu to?

jon
07-16-2009, 10:06 PM
what yr is yours again?cause all cb7s should be obd1....i know some early 90s were obd0 but you should be obd1....

2fast4usteeley
07-16-2009, 10:58 PM
mines a 91' but im sure its obd1 cus its got the little blue plug on the passengers side, i was on cb7tuner and there just a bunch of ass hatts but know there shit sooo...

Brian
07-16-2009, 11:48 PM
if I'm not mistaken, Honda went to OBD1 in '92.

Check your ECU number and it will tell you exactly what you need to know

2fast4usteeley
07-17-2009, 10:41 PM
well everyone on the cb7tuner forum and alot of other people tell me that i have obd1 cus supposedly all cb7's are obd1, where would i be able to find out on my ecu or on my car to confirm that it is obd1?

2fast4usteeley
07-17-2009, 10:45 PM
cus a guy on the the cb7tuner forum says in this pic i can plug the obd1 into http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n109/1337sauce01/dizzytiming005.jpg i have this exact plug on my car and they say if you have this on your car then it is obd1, i think my car might be an obd1 car, it may be a late model 91' idk off the top of my head i would have to check

motherf***nhonda
03-11-2010, 10:16 AM
i think your lame lol need to actually do somthing with that thing instead the 3000 its nice but im not too big or impresseed on mitsubishi and you need to solve that automatic situation on that accord

blackice
03-11-2010, 04:20 PM
90+ accords are obd1, they switched over to obd2 in 96. LOL that little blue plug you just jump with a wire to get the cel light to flash error codes, there is no "plugin" like obd2 with a code reader or anything.

i ran a chipped p28 in my 90 lx cb with the h22 using uberdata at first then switched to crome. jose (d112crzy) is probably the one on here to talk to about what setup to go with. ectune, neptune etc. depends on what your plans are and how much you want to spend.

ps. early 90 accords were NOT obd0, mine actually had parts labeled 89' such as the cluster and was still obd1

d112crzy
03-11-2010, 09:11 PM
My advice;

Turbo system/Exhaust
The turbo you have listed is on the small side and will probably choke your motor above 6.5k. The cam will take your motor well to 7k, possibly more. Look into a Holset HY35. I'd say it's perfect for your goals. Also, do go with anything smaller than a 3" exhaust, including the downpipe.
For your manifold, a top mount is a little too much, but get it if you'd like. No one makes them, so you'll have to get it custom. If you want though, I sell either "SplitLog" and "shorty" manifolds for F22's. Hit me up for pricing and more info.
Any good sized ebay intercooler will work. And don't go smaller than 2.5" charge piping.

Internals/motor
I'd never recommend stock pistons for anything over 300hp. The ring lands are just too weak and the motor will only last for a while. Bisimoto sells pistons, as does Wiseco. Try to stick around 9:1-10:1 compression. Lower isn't a bad thing, but it'll take more boost to reach your goal and will sacrifice some spool time.
The rods you list are GREAT rods, but I don't think your build requires them. They are pretty expensive. Bisi sells some good priced rods, and even ebay forged rods would work well enough. I'd go with Bisi rods though.
You can stick with a stock head and go only with the Bisimoto springs and retainers. Everything else, leave stock. ARP head studs are a great idea though.
For bearings, measure out your clearances and then order your bearings. Or just have someone build you your motor.

Fuel system
Get a walbro 255lph pump and stay away from those venom injectors. Either look into some DSM 560's or purchase some well known brand injectors. Injector Dynamics, Bosch, Precision...etc.
I wouldn't get a fuel rail, as the stock one can handle plenty of fuel flow. Definitely get an adjustable fuel pressure regulator tho along with a fuel pressure gauge.

Drivetrain
Stock axles will work fine, as long as you don't launch like a moron.
For your clutch, go with the strongest one you can get. I personally like the Action 2MS, which you can get through Bisi or many other places. They have a very harsh pedal feel, but they grab like a mofo. Another option to look into are clutches from www.lsdmotorsports.com.
Any flywheel will work, just try and get one that has timing marks.

Tuning/ECU
Definitely get a p06/p75/pr4 and get it chipped(I chip ecu's btw). As for what tuning program to use, go with whatever your tuner recommends. The closest tuner to you that I personally know of is Reid from KaizenSpeed in Tri-Cities, WA. Either way, talk to your tuner first and see what he prefers.
You're also probably going to need a bigger map sensor. You can either get a GM 3bar, but if you want to spend a little more and save some hassle, the Omni map sensors work well.

Ignition
Stick with OEM and OEM only. Stock Honda ignitions can handle well up to 600whp. Just replace cap/rotor/ignitor as needed. For coils, I like the MSD external coils though. Use NGK spark plugs, and again ask your tuner which ones he prefers using or what he recommends.


If you need any advice or help with building your motor/tuning/anything, lmk. I can do all of the above.

gotrice93
03-11-2010, 09:18 PM
Wow great info d112crzy. I'm sure this will help Brandon.

Stang
03-11-2010, 10:12 PM
+1 agreed very good info